What do you think of the loss of the million votes, as you wait for the results of the demographic analysis?
One part — as I said — we lacked the strong vote of Izquierda Unida. Another part, I think, went to the forces against change, mostly to the PSOE, and a very important part abstained. This is something that must be understood very well, because there are objective factors: the repeated elections, the weariness of the people against the elections, the fear stoking by the PP and PSOE. But the rest of the missing votes is completely our responsibility. We were not able to read the reality that was building around us. Our potential voters wanted something new and we are too blended with the rest, without marking our differences adequately. Besides, the analyses say one thing very clear: that the vote of those over 45, rural and with a lower level of education goes to the right. Those urban, young voters, with educational qualifications, they vote to the left. It is a very demanding electorate, which goes completely recovered. Being so close to the PSOE has weighed very much, to tend our hand so many times. If we continue on this road, it could possibly become a chronic problem.
Now what can happen inside Unidos Podemos? Is it possible to have an extraordinary congress?
I think not, but for sure it is necessary to open a broad debate. After all, we know the solutions. The conservatives advocate the usual solutions that we already know do not work: war, terrorism, migrants, public assets, we well know their solutions. We must open a discussion space to develop other solutions, take charge of the problems and choose which are the paths to follow, among people who are our reference. We have to open a discussion that extends the front but that is not, for once, an emergency, otherwise we know who will be short of breath.
Assuming a Rajoy government, does Podemos have the strength to stand in opposition?
We’ll see, because in the meantime when the right takes over power, it does not give it up so easily. This was in response to the hypothesis of a shaky government a couple of years ago … but for Podemos, the stage that opens is very attractive. As I said, you cannot win elections if you have not demonstrated the ability to govern. Now, we have the opportunity to make a fight, both parliamentary and social, and prove that we can be able to govern, by exploiting the municipalities where we do. It takes time though. We have to prove that we have the solutions and can be useful.